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Breaking News 7/15/17 TRUMP TWEET RUSSIA STORY

find evidence by his latest tweet just a short time ago he says stock market hit another all-time high yesterday just slice the Russian hoax story president is in New Jersey this weekend so a CNN correspondent Boris Sanchez Boris is anyone in the administration saying anything official about the direction this story is developing hailer Anna not specifically about these new revelations at least yet that tweet is the most specific the president has gotten when it comes to the details of who was in that meeting with Donald Trump jr. Paul Manafort and Jared Kushner obviously the revelation being that there’s someone who at least one Republican senators Republican senator calls a Russian intelligence operative of course that Russian lobbyist has denied claims that he is tied to Russian intelligence gathering but the real insight from that suite is that the president continues to refer to the story as a hoax despite the fact that there is now clear evidence that Donald from jr. took this meeting specifically to gather dirt negative information about Hillary Clinton from the Russian government there has not been an official statement from the White House on this new information they have yet to comment publicly instead referring all questions to the president legal team Anna just in the past few minutes we learned the White House has added another attorney to work on their side on the Russia investigation but we know about this new attorney he’s a high-powered Washington DC attorney by the name of Ty Cobb he’s a former federal prosecutor he is currently a partner at a law firm and he’s been brought in essentially to oversee the White House response to the Russia investigation not only legally but also the media response and the timing of this higher honor is very interesting it comes amid a report that there are some tensions between trumps personal attorney mark cassileth and top White House officials it has really been a rough week for Kassovitz there were some emails released this week that show a very rough expletive Laden argument between he and a critic something that he eventually apologized for I should tell you Casa which is expected to stay on as the president’s attorney but this is really an indication the hiring of Ty Cobb that the White House needs to do more when it comes to responding to the Russia investigation again not just legally but also in the press onna all right for Sanchez at the White House or traveling with the president I should say from New Jersey this weekend thank you more now on that mysterious figure who has become part of this Russia investigation CNN senior international correspondent Ivan Watson is in Moscow for us and Ivan I’m talking about Renaud aux machine now confirmed to have attended that meeting between Donald Trump jr. and this Russian lawyer he was an officer in the Soviet Army we’ve learned is the Kremlin still saying they don’t know who he is yeah they say they do not know who he is we know that he was born in the Soviet Union and he did do his conscript service in the Soviet Red Army as all men in those days had to do but he’s been in the US for more than 20 years on it he became a naturalized US citizen in 2009 if you want to know what he does we looked at a document from 2012 that he submitted to a New York District Court and he said that he works in strategic communications he went on to write quote some of my clients are national governments or high-ranking officials in those governments now a more recent document that was submitted by the head of the Senate Judiciary Committee Chuck Grassley to the Department of Homeland Security was a request for information the senator wrote I quote a right to obtain information regarding mr. Rinna aufmachen a Russian immigrant to the United States who’s been accused of acting as an unregistered agent for Russian interests and apparently has ties to Russian intelligence now more recent interviews masaf mention has denied any links to the Russian government or to Russian intelligence we do know that he lobbied against the Magnitsky Act that is a piece of legislation that can be used to sanction Russian individuals who are implicated in human rights abuses or in corruption and he worked alongside a certain Russian lawyer named Tanya vision it’s kaya they had a governmental organization together she is the lawyer who is in that room in June of 2016 in Trump Tower with Donald Trump jr. that meeting that’s attracted so much controversy I’ve been where else through these lines reach in Russia I mean we know there was also this Russian pop stars publicist who was part of the meeting talk to me about the russian pop star and his billionaire father who apparently the trumps knew through the 2013 Miss Universe pageant yeah according to the emails that Donald Trump jr. released the meeting was requested by a British music promoter named Rob Goldstone he’s the one who actually wrote that he was basically going to bring information from the Russian government to help Donald Trump get elected now the promoter says he was acting for his client a man named Amin Aguilera he is a Russian pop star he just completed a tour in the US and he was asked also friends and business partners with the Trump’s they helped together put on the 2013 Miss Universe contest here in Moscow now it mean not only is this pop star who had Donald Trump senior in his music video back in those days but his father’s this billionaire real estate developer Aris Aguilera’s who has shopping malls here restaurants Convention Center he’s building soccer stadiums he was awarded a medal of honor by Vladimir Putin and get this we’ve learned that a couple years ago his company crocus international crocus group was awarded 129 million dollar contract from the Russian government to help work on customs infrastructure with the former Soviet republic of Kyrgyzstan the crocus group and the Aguilera’s have denied that they sent this Russian lawyer to try to help with the Trump campaign to help win the election in 2016 they do confirm that they sent the lawyer to meet with Donald Trump jr. it’s all very interesting Ivan Watson thank you for that reporting let’s bring in our panel now joining us watching bureau chief for the chicago sun-times wing suite and CNN legal and national security analyst asha run kapa ladies the president’s legal team is now defending this meeting saying even though it happened it is not illegal let’s listen what statutes being violated here because at the end of the day i keep saying this this is interesting and i understand that while you’re covering it but the fact is no legal violation for the meeting right the meeting itself is not a violation of the law so asha first do you agree there’s nothing illegal here and second even if no laws were broken does that mean there’s nothing wrong with having had this meeting right on it so this is once again another Jedi mind trick that’s being attempted to say that this is completely normal and it’s not normal it may be that if this meeting is taken in isolation we can’t get any of the American principals who were there on a crime but I suspect that this is a tip of the iceberg I will say that though that the number of Russians that keep popping up in as being it’s in attendance to this meeting they could be in violation of some laws and that is a big bonanza for Muller because he has more people to question so the Senators letter that was just read by the previous reporter mentioned that somebody may have been acting as an unregistered agent there’s something called the foreign agent Registration Act which requires that people who are here and acting on foreign interests on behalf of foreign governments have to have to register particularly if they’re doing things like lobbying and that carries a penalty of five years in prison it has been prosecuted before so Muller may have leverage to hold over all of these Russian attendees and when they might be facing prison time they don’t have diplomatic cover like most spies do they will be hung out to dry by the Russian government and which disavows any association with them they will start talking and we don’t know yet what other information they’re going to start coughing up so interesting to think that it’s those other players not Kushner perhaps not Don Jr who would be the source of information that really gets to the truth here but Lyn the fact that this administration has made multiple misleading if not inaccurate statements about this meeting as we’re learning more and more information that comes out does it make it harder for them to now clean credibly that nothing came of this meeting a the question they answer a question that is not being asked right now the let’s take it one step at a time if I could build on what we’re talking about here first you find out what happened then you sort it out and see if a crime is committed what crime is it false statements is it conspiracy is it is it bad judgment which is not a crime but something important for the public to know if we’re just talking about what it’s good for knowing about Russian intrusion in our elections so the more you say oh we didn’t commit a crime isn’t at the point it’s just they say that in a sense when it’s said by the term spokesman it’s to distract you from finding out what happened getting people and this is classic and how you build a case let me underscore what we’re talking about here you build from the bottom up people that have something to fear from prosecution so they’ll tell everything they know for the real targets of the investigation the bigger fish one quick thing this lawyer that Ty Cobb distant relative of the baseball player I first came across him in the 1990s and the Democratic campaign finance scandal so he knows about scandals in Washington when he was defending in that day a DNC fundraiser who was in hot water for maybe taking donations from foreign sources so you know this is all very familiar territory to the new lawyer that is helping President Trump on the White House tab okay ladies I want to go back over a couple of the statement sets have been put out over the course of the past week it was one week ago today Donald Trump jr. released his first statement about this meeting let’s show it to everybody says quote I was a short introductory meeting I asked Jared and Paul to stop by we primarily discuss an adoption program I was asked to attend the meeting by an acquaintance but was not told name of the person I would be meeting with beforehand and then a day later he released a new statement after another report by the New York Times adding this information I was asked to have a meeting by an acquaintance I knew from the 2013 Miss Universe pageant the individual who I was told might have information helpful to the campaign I asked Jared and Paul to attend but told them nothing of the substance and now we know based on the emails Trump jr. released that he was told he would be meeting with a Russian government lawyer that this person had damaging intelligence of Clinton that he did tell Manafort & Kushner what this meeting was about because he afforded been his email chain and that others were there including a lobbyist with alleged ties to Russian intelligence Asha your former intelligence official does this seem like someone who has nothing to hide in my experience someone who keeps changing their story is usually hiding something I think that is a pretty common pattern that you see more importantly on a as it was mentioned just now truth-telling is going to become very important because often in these large sprawling investigations what ends up clinching some of these people who may have skated right under the law in in other ways is making false statements when they’re being interviewed by federal officials so one example of this is Martha Stewart who is investigated for SEC violations it turned out actually that she hadn’t committed any SEC violation but she had made false statements in the course of the investigation and that’s what she was prosecuted and convicted for so when I start seeing these shifting stories I’m thinking that these people might get jammed up on line if they don’t start coming clean or better yet just not saying anything at all a White House official has told CNN that it is not good that Trump jr. story keeps changing Lynne is it possible we’ve seen so many different explanations because White House aides and lawyers aren’t even getting the full story from from jr. and Jared Kushner them cell oh it’s possible when you think about it did done Junior who did release the emails did he think that the the fragments the crumbs he was offering would make the story go away and that abbreviated statement especially when he had you know he didn’t do public relations 101 get everything out in the sense you didn’t need a summary statement where he could trip himself up as we’re talking about the email speak for themselves you don’t have to explain anything you don’t have to give a summary statement you say I’m releasing the emails my lawyer is releasing them and then it we know every day in this story part of the developments are what people are not volunteering to tell the whole story it shouldn’t be a matter well you didn’t ask me if the Russian translator was in the room you’re right I didn’t ask who knew okay that there are things that if you really want everything out you can volunteer it and I think and we can talk about this at there’s time professional investigators agents that do this digging know where people are not volunteering anything I know as reporter because there’s just holes in the story where you have to go back and say gee you know I mean I’m saying this on reflection so you were talking with this this lawyer in from Moscow how did you two talk to do you speak Russian did she speak English you know Sophia showed a lot more questions all right that aren’t dead he could’ve he could have just told the whole story and put it together and if there if there is mitigating evidence something’s misconstrued maybe somebody’s going to say I you think it’s damning in these emails I didn’t read it through and through now I gotta go there’s always more to discuss all these also important to note that we also learned in the last couple of days that Jared Kushner’s legal team found these emails as early as mid-june and yes since then is is how long it’s taken for them to come up with a response and of course it all exploded after the New York Times got the reporting Lynn sweet assuring Gotha thanks so much for the conversation thank you still have this our legal limbo as you just heard the White House of adding a high-profile Washington lawyer to the mix how this could change the Trump team response to the Russia investigation plus walking a tightrope Senate Republicans want a vote on health care next week but if one more member jump ship hello again everyone and thank you so much for being with me on fredricka whitfield a pivotal weekend for the President of the United States as he faces a pair of major challenges he’s spending the weekend at his New Jersey golf course which is hosting the US Women’s Open but a White House official says he’s burning up the phone lines calling senators in last-minute make-or-break efforts to save a revised GOP health care plan the president is also facing a growing crisis over a secret meeting his son Donald Trump jr. held with several people connected to Russia CNN’s Boris Sanchez is covering the president for us from nearby met Bedminster so Boris I understand the president is adding some legal firepower to help with this growing Russia investigation that’s right Fred just a few moments ago we confirm that the White House is bringing onboard a gentleman by the name of Ty Cobb he’s a very powerful Washington DC attorney and he is being brought in to oversee the response to the Russia investigation specifically the response in the press from what we understand he was a former federal prosecutor he was also a partner at Hogan and levels of is hire is interesting when it comes to timing because this comes amid reports from senior White House officials that there is some tension between the White House and the president’s current private attorney mark Kassovitz who has had a very rough week just a few days ago some private emails between him and a critic were released in the press expletive late and eventually Castle which had to apologize for those emails but this really is an indication from the White House that they need something more when it comes to the response at least to Russia in the press I should mention more cassileth is expected to stay on as the president private attorney Fred and then as it pertains to health care I know the president is making his rounds on the phone you know he’s talking about he trying to get support but what else is he doing thinking feel about this Republican health care plan well for the president actually tweeted out about four minutes ago saying that the Senate is going to vote on legislation to save Americans from the Obamacare disaster that was part of his weekly address this is a full-court press right now from the White House it’s not only the president making phone calls this weekend it’s also Mike Pence going to several events promoting the repeal and replacement of Obamacare something that is essentially in do-or-die mode the Congressional Budget the Congressional Budget Office I should say is expected to come out with a score for this newly revised bill on Monday the White House preemptively put out a statement saying that the figures are going to be inaccurate before even seeing them the president has made it clear this is a very important piece of his agenda and if it is not passed he is going to be angry what sort of this I am sitting in the Oval Office with a pen in hand waiting for our senators to give it to me what’ll happen if they don’t well I don’t want to talk about it because I think would be very bad I will be very angry about it and a lot of people will be very upset keep in mind Fred Mitch McConnell the Senate Majority Leader needs 50 votes to get this thing passed there are 52 Republicans in the Senate two of those are already hard-nosed Susan Collins of Maine and Rand Paul of Kentucky if he loses another vote this bill dies and there are so many Republican senators right now that are uncertain so this push from the White House will be necessary to get this thing passed Fred all right Boris Sanchez thanks so much I will some US senators will likely be taking cues from the governors of their states when it comes to the health care bill earlier I spoke with Democratic Governor Terry McAuliffe of Virginia and he says he’s concerned that Republicans are putting politics before policy they made a pledge that they were going to repeal Obamacare on day one that’s what they promised now they’re dealt with the reality is they’re really playing a game of Twister trying to figure out how they do this how they need a political objective but this isn’t about politics it’s really not this is policy is the biggest policy initiative we have that’s why I’m saying like the governor’s Democrats Republicans we’re all here together we put our politics aside when we come in this room what’s in the best interests of our citizens and I just wish Congress would do the same thing this is not about political scoring points people will die I don’t say that lightly if we do not get this right all right the Vice President Mike Pence told governor’s yesterday that the Senate bill will be better for their states but the Senate health care bill gives States the freedom to redesign your health insurance markets and most significantly under this legislation states across the country will have an unprecedented level of flexibility to reform Medicaid and bring better coverage better care and better outcomes to the most vulnerable in your states all right joining me now to talk more about this the health care bill CNN political analyst David Drucker senior congressional correspondent for the Washington Examiner and Time magazine contributor jay Newton small good to see both of you alright so David you first know the Senate bill facing a crucial test in the week ahead you know Ken a majority leader Mitch McConnell get the 50 votes that he needs to move the bill forward well that’s still to be determined I’ve thought all along that he eventually was going to get there one way or the other whether it’s this coming week last week a month from now because Republicans are facing a couple of problems here one their base and not just the Trump base but the broader Republican base expects them to repeal and replace Obamacare they’ve been promising this for seven years not doing it is a very big problem for them in the 2018 midterms because when you control all aspects of government and you can’t deliver something as basic as this and I mean basically that’s the only consensus that they all want to do something but the problem is how to do it and want to agree upon right and the other so the other thing there Fred that they’re faced with is the fact that the health care system is in trouble and does need to be fixed whoever you blame for it whatever you think the fix should be they’re going to have to do something it’s not enough to say wow our bills really unpopular people don’t want it so let’s just leave things alone we’ll get back to it later there’s a that needs fixing so they have to do something which is why I think eventually they get there you know when Democrats are saying okay then prop up what is there make it better but still many Republicans are saying no we have a promise we made a campaign promise the president has reiterated that too so J conservative Republican Rand Paul and moderate Republicans Susan Collins both dislike this Senate bill you know for different reasons so how much of this does come down to a fundamental fundamental philosophical you know difference in the role of government over health care it’s actually I think a lot more a local issue in a lot of ways it’s where you sit versus where you stand which i think has always been a tradition of politics Obamacare is is actually a very much a Republican was built off was very much a Republican ideal in fact it’s a lot closer to the Republican bill that was suggested in a replacement or in response to Hillary care back in the 1990s and it is to that it is to sort of Democrats ideas or ideals a singer’ single-payer or what they would have liked to see in system being new expansions of Medicare Medicaid and s chip which is what Teddy Kennedy for example used to propose and having government provided health care rather than health care depending on private markets and so really a lot of the problems with this bill are a lot more simply not just ideological but are a lot more local and so you have states for example for Republican governors have come out against us and these are from states like Ohio Arizona Arkansas and these are states that that have allowed me to have Republicans in the Senate and now Nevada is the last one and those Republicans are going to be in a bind if they vote against their state governors and so they’re in a lot of these states that actually expanded Obamacare like Kentucky our Republican states Ohio is another one and so so really it’s a lot more local and it’s a lot more sort of complicated and intrinsic than it is simply ideologically speaking Obamacare is conservative or not hmm so this revised Senate bill you know it does include a version of you know Ted Cruz’s amendment allowing insurers to issue cheaper policies with fewer benefits it is that what it will take to win over conservatives David well it’s something like that that would allow flex ability for insurance companies to offer cheaper plans because what Republicans say their constituents are telling them and what seems to be driving them the most when I talk to them is this need to bring down the cost of premiums and deductibles and what they tell me they here at home is that people can’t afford the insurance that’s available to them and then they point to a lot of the counties and this is true in Nevada and Jay brings up a good point about how local this is this is true in states like Nevada and Ohio that have embraced Medicaid expansion but where you’ve seen a lot of insurance companies pull out of markets there and some counties don’t have any choices anymore and so Republicans say that they’re focused on trying to create flexibility so that the people that need the more expansive plans can get them than the people that don’t have other options one of the problems with the Affordable Care Act has been that it did not create enough of an incentive for young and healthy people who are not going to need health care that often to buy insurance plans the mandate was the penalty for the mandate was not enough to encourage them to do it and so you’ve had these kinds of issues with the Affordable Care Act that needs fixing or that they need to address in a new plan and so these are some of the things they’re trying to work through and ultimately I think the big problem Republicans are having here is that they don’t want to get rid of any of the goodies in Obamacare that everybody likes but they want to be able to say they passed repeal and you either have to do one or the other or you end up in the bind that they’re in and so Jay you know the role part one of the problems with okay cheaper you know premiums or you know policies or you know thrifty or kind of policies but then what about the the older people you know so you’ve got younger people who may benefit but then the older people who will then who do need health care you know more will end up paying more and they can’t afford it absolutely which is one of the biggest problems with Ted Cruz’s amendment and why two of the largest health insurance groups in the country America’s health insurance plans and Blue Cross Blue Shield came out against this this amendment saying it was completely unworkable and it was an impossibility for them to actually implement this this rule of saying it’s just you couldn’t do it because it would really do damage the health care systems it helps you know in my these these kinds of play were actually eradicated specifically under the ACA because they were being abused because people were having to declare medical bankruptcy they saw that they were covered for a number of things it turns out that they weren’t and that’s why there was a certain standard set for health care across the but across you know across the nation and actually health insurance a hip and BlueCross BlueShield actually worked on those provisions drafting those provisions with the lawmakers who are writing them and so now going back and sort of repealing certain parts of it and taking apart this sort of cherry-picking provisions out of it really collapses the whole system and it does such a huge amount of damage there’s no way you could actually feasibly implement it all right Jay Newton small David Drucker we’ll leave it right there thanks so much thank you all right calming up at the White House focuses on health care we’re learning more about another figure in the meeting between Donald Trump jr. and a Russian lawyer what we know about this man and his ties to other players in this meeting yes [Music] we’re learning more now about the people who were in that secret meeting at Trump Tower in June of 2016 one of the newly discovered attendees in that room Russian American lobbyists who one senator has accused of being a Russian counterintelligence person CNN’s national security correspondent Jim sciutto has the story the June 2016 meeting at Trump Tower with Donald Trump jr. Jared Kushner and Paul Manafort included more people beyond the Russian lawyer Natalia Bethel and skaia a source familiar with the circumstances tells CNN Russian American lobbyists Rinat akhmetov’s several media outlets that he was also in the meeting mention told reporters for The New York Times in Washington Post that he’s a veteran of the Soviet Army in a March letter to the Justice Department Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley described mention as quote someone with ties to Russian intelligence someone alleged to have conducted political disinformation campaigns as part of a pro-russia lobbying effort plainly this Russian attorney this other third party they were present they were there to both deliver a message as well to receive a message and plainly Moscow understood only too well that this is conduct that the Trump campaign would really appreciate a connection denied any intelligence links to the Washington Post saying quote at no time have I ever worked for the Russian government or any of its agencies I was not an intelligence officer never he also told the Post he was born in Russia and became a US citizen in 2009 ock mentions lobbying effort which he did on behalf of the russian lawyer vessel and sky ax was aimed at repealing the Magnitsky Act which sanctions Russians accused of human rights abuses a complaint filed against him with the Department of Justice claims that effort was on behalf of the Kremlin he has also been accused according to court papers filed in New York in 2015 of hacking on behalf of one company into the computer systems of a rival company to steal confidential information in a business dispute the company AMR withdrew the accusation soon after without providing a reason in an earlier related case he denied a similar accusation saying in an affidavit quote I am NOT a computer specialist and I am not capable of hacking in addition to his lobbying work affection was well-known in Washington for being connected to very powerful people in Russia both in the business world there and in government and one more note though he was born in Russia then the Soviet Union he emigrated to the u.s. and is now a US citizen and as a US citizen he can be subpoenaed to testify before the investigating committees on the hill Jim sciutto CNN Washington Donald Trump jr. says the meeting was a waste of time and nothing was disclosed because there was nothing to disclose he says but some critics are calling it collusion so which is it I asked the former Republican chairman of the House Intelligence Committee and now a CNN national security commentator Mike Rogers it’s certainly not a crime the lack of transparency to me is the biggest part of this issue I think you had they all made an interesting decision apparently three of them did know that this information was at least purported to come from the Russian government you know the first reaction to that is if any foreign government tries to come here and provide information on your opponent of any stripe I don’t care what party you are what your philosophical been is the first call ought to be to the FBI and that didn’t happen and so it’s it’s a little bit concerning to me that their judgment allowed them to go and sit in the meeting and then the notion that they just were not consistent in disclosing and transparent about the meeting and who was in the meeting and what was talked about in the meeting that’s all very concerning to me and and so there’s some of that circle who are saying well it was just not being part of the political scene being very naive and that anyone the president said it himself anyone would do it would take that meeting to get dirt on an opponent in this case Hillary Clinton is that justifiable in your view no I don’t think we can normalize foreign governments in trying to I don’t know influence okay a candidate by providing information and so anytime a foreign government and by the way most people have a pretty good understanding that the Russian intelligence service is not is hostile to the United States there’s no way around that they do lots of hostile operations they target Americans both here and overseas they target people who work in the defense industry or work for government operations trying to recruit them they use blackmail like they used to do 20 years ago they still do that they use things called the honey pots where they get you know it put people in compromising positions in order to blackmail them to get information that they shouldn’t be giving this is a hostile intelligence service to the United States most people know that if the Russian government calls and says hey we have information on your opponent the first reaction should not be and we should not normalize this behavior opposition research research is a real thing and it happens in politics every day and people throw things at each other you know in an awful way in our politics every single election cycle this is very different and we should not normalize it they should have I’m not sure what the reaction should have been but hiding it and not talking to the FBI right away this end hey the Russians are trying to give us information this doesn’t smell right that should have been their reaction and now you have the possible testimonies of the former campaign manager Paul Manafort of advisor Jared Kushner of Donald Trump jr. will this be a set of legal problems for all of these three or will they be strictly political ones particularly for Kushner since he is a White House adviser I mean certainly I think it’s it’s going to cost political problems either way I mean you have these folks up there talking about it’s not it’s going to be a hostile questioning environment at those hearings you know my concern would be if I were if I were advising them legal advice there is an FBI investigation or Department scuse me a Department of Justice investigation supported by the FBI with Bob Muller do you really want somebody that you know could be implicated or might say something that they didn’t say to the FBI I was a little surprised to see that they’re going to actually testify on the hill because remember they’re under oath they could be charged with perjury if they lie and say tell the FBI one thing and the Senate the other another thing they’ve got trouble ahead of them legal trouble where they might now only be in political trouble so I was a little surprised to see it it’s going to be interesting to watch and I guarantee you there’s going to be folks from Department of Justice watching is eager as anyone any other viewer of those at that testimony so the former campaign manager Paul Manafort is real the vet here you know among the three there in terms of politics being involved in many political arenas so how much will he be pressed on knowing how this proposed meeting with Russians you know should have been handled he wouldn’t be able to proclaim being naive yeah well I’m not Atlas a foreign government says I don’t buy that argument as a former FBI agent I’m not buying it you know if if you’ve been in the business world and you understand how all that works of a foreign government contacts you and says I have information that’s that should have sent up a red flag all day long but manna fort you’re right he had dealings in Ukraine so he should understand the length and effort of the Russian intelligence service so just to have the the meeting itself you know he’s going to have a lot of explaining to do and remember fredericka the investigators are going to look at this meeting and say okay no harm no foul no crime was committed and then I believe that’s right in having the meeting you know could be a judgment issue but there’s no crime committed but what happened next so this is where you have to understand that the word I think the investigators are going to start asking questions so was there a subsequent meeting was did they offer up a name for someone else on the campaign to go talk to all of those things are now going to be trying to be determined by the by the FBI and the investigation with DOJ because that’s how you would know if the Russians were actually recruiting somebody you know again their whole look at this is is going to be try to find out hey were there financial transactions in the future did they recruit someone what this is just a one time gig that didn’t work well the Russians do that a lot that in and of itself is not a crime interesting and now talk about timing how about those Russian compounds Russia once access now to the compounds in Maryland and New York Obama administration of course kicking a number of the Russians out of that property how detrimental potentially would it be if President Trump were to determine that they can now have access again to those compounds well I wouldn’t do it Frederick I you know when the Russians left they were in a hurry and they took lots and lots of equipment out of those compounds I wouldn’t be in a hurry to give it back to them for sure I don’t think that they were a pure vacation spots for the Russians I think they used them as collection facilities and I wouldn’t give them back candidly alright Mike Rogers thanks so much good to see you yeah thanks great to see you Frederica all right coming up as questions swirl around Russia President Trump is turning his attention to health care what the White House is doing today to push the embattled GOP bill across the finish line next welcome back live pictures right now from Capitol Hill where President Trump is pushing to overhaul health care pass tax reform and a major budget he’s not there physically but he’s thinking about capital it’s his legislative agenda that is stalled collateral damage due to swirling controversies over possible campaign ties to Russia and the special investigations looking into the matter well some senior lawmakers say the drip drip of Russia stories are to blame how much that all this Russia controversy is overwhelming things here for you guys how much of it is coming up in the action out of the room everybody knows that when it sucks the action either only does that mean that you guys this agenda is essentially undercutting the Republican agenda I think it’s very difficult when you have this overwhelming barrage of new information that unfolds every few days I think it’s obvious there’s a common perception we’re not doing much when we’re actually doing quite a bit but most people back home aren’t even aware they’re caught up in the sort of daily distractions that go on coming out of the White House Democratic congressman and former governor of Florida charlie Crist joining me now good to see you so you’re also a member of the also a member of the problem-solver caucus so you know are those controversies in your view you know starting to weigh on the lawmakers on both sides of the aisle is that what potentially is stalling much of the President’s agenda I don’t think there’s much question about that fredericka it kind of takes all the oxygen out of the room and when you have continuing revelations about different things that happen in the administration whether it’s who’s meeting with whom or whatever you know it consumes the news I mean certainly it affects your business significantly and it certainly consumes Congress these things are important they need to be looked into thoroughly they need to be appropriately investigated which they are and it’s a focus of the country and but I know the American people want us to get things done and that’s why problem-solvers a caucus within the nighted States Congress I think it’s so important where we put aside our political differences we treat each other in a civil fashion we respect one another understanding that we’re not going to agree on everything but we’re Americans first instead of partisans first and I think that’s what the American people want that’s the way I think we need to comport ourselves so how does problem-solvers get to the root of trying to solve this problem of health care the Affordable Care Act having some problems continuing to give the kind of care that was promised to them at the same time you know solve the problem of Republicans who say they want to repeal and replace it and Democrats solving the problem among Democrats who say they don’t want it repealed at all but they do want it fixed well as far as the problem solvers approach to it we had a meeting just this week Republicans and Democrats together trying to look through different parts of the health care bill understanding that you know there are parts of it that some are not going to like and others are going to life I think we can all agree that we would like premiums to be reduced that we would like to provide health care to those in need that we don’t want to be cruel to those that are poor and unable to work nor to the disabled who who need health care and the current form of the bill doesn’t achieve that it would take 22 million Americans mostly poor and disabled and leave them without health care I mean it’s not really a health care bill in my view it’s a bill to get rid of health care for an awful lot of our fellow Americans that’s not the right approach and I think most people understand that certainly problem solvers do and that’s what we want to achieve not really looking at the partisan label but realizing as I said before we’re all Americans first and we have an obligation to help the American people and to do what’s right not only in health care but also with infrastructure it’s pretty clear and I think pretty non-controversial that we need to improve our roads improve our bridges improve our rail service improve our airports it would provide an awful lot of jobs it would be a great stimulus to our economy it would help grow the economy in significant ways providing those jobs for millions of Americans these are common-sense things that I think the American people want us to focus on I know that’s what I hear here in my district in st. Petersburg and Clearwater Florida I’m going to a barbecue right after this interview today in the south side of st. Pete we’ll hear more from the people that I work for my boss if you will and they always tell me Charlie you know work together do the best you can try to do it in a respectful way and that’s how we’re trying to comport ourselves in fact that’s why I introduced with Representative Mike Johnson of Louisiana a Republican I’m a Democrat that we should have a national day of civility I wear this yellow wristband every day that reminds me to practice the golden rule every day dr. Robert Wallace gave me the idea during the campaign last year and I think it’s a great idea we need to get back to some of those values of mutual respect so the White House right now is aggressively you know trying to woo governor’s skeptical of the health care bill earlier spoke with Virginia Governor McAuliffe who says the phone calls the lobbying of governor supports should have come well before today but how about in the making of this plan so as governor when you were governor at what jump with the murder of mr. Finney Kara