[Music] there was nothing that as far as we know that would lead anyone to believe that there was anything except for a discussion about adoption the Majin ski act there was nothing except everything except the subject line of the email and it’s everything there are Russia in this set up for this meeting from Goldstone the publicist for this russian pop star everything about it was set up to not be about what the press secretary just said don’t let everything discuss why the press secretary took that tact of when dealing with the press as though we don’t all have videotape and memories that’s from back our panel David Gregory crystal is an arrow Lewis Chris have they been keeping Sean Spicer in a soundproof room where he did not know that there’s been an ongoing conversation where John Jr has already admitted in his emails that he was lured by the prospect of dirt on Hillary Clinton from the Russian I love it did not go to adoption policy and sanctions as I remember for my reading of email I listened to that yesterday and I immediately thought that it felt like a Sean Spicer press briefing from eight days ago right I mean that was when that quote would have had some relevance before the Don jr. emails which by the way Don jr. released before the president United States tweeted out that anyone would have taken this meeting to get dirt on her opposition research on a political opponent there’s only no explanation other than well there’s two one the president says and does what he wants the White House communication staff says something totally different that’s one – I do think that Sean Spicer is just refusing to give an inch even when the truth is quite obvious I don’t know whether it’s a concerted effort to kill these daily press briefings to just sort of kill them by lack of information kill them by misstatement or he thinks that somehow someone believes it but the evidence most people sorry I left my word it means for me gymnastics that you’re going through are entertaining well what’s hard hurt Alison as most people when confronted with something that is provably demonstrable false don’t say that thing I don’t say I can dunk on an 11 foot hoop because David Gregory and our pull out the 11-foot hoop we have back here in DC and it will be clear that I can jump about eight feet one inch like I don’t understand why you would say something like this when it takes literally one internet search to prove you 100% absolutely beyond the shadow of a doubt wrong so the idea that there’s a strategy finding if there is I can I can confidently say it’s a bad strategy I the suggestion would be Errol that this strategy is the truth is what we say it is that’s what they’re banking on and if they say that it was about this the narrative will turn where the president isn’t saying that so they’re not even using the same falsehood well I think they probably thought it was two irons in the fire one everybody would take a meeting like this which is totally not true not these types of circumstances right would you take a meeting to get dirt on your opponent eight days a week you would take it with this these red flags waving in your face when you look at no you wouldn’t and then the other iron in the fire would be oh and by the way this was innocent it was only about the sanctions anyway that lawyer was a dupe and that guy Goldstone is one of the most prolific liars we have ever seen in public life before all right but meanwhile meanwhile Errol and David I just want to get this in before you respond to it the Wall Street Journal okay a Rupert Murdoch owned property it has a pretty scathing editorial this morning about how the Trump’s have mishandled much of this mr. Trump somehow seems to believe that his outsized personality and his social media following make him larger than the presidency he’s wrong and he and his family seem oblivious to the brutal realities of Washington politics those realities will destroy mr. Trump his family and their business reputation unless they change their strategy towards the Russia probe they don’t have much more time to do it early you know it reminds me of some of the apocalyptic warnings that were issued to the Trump campaign all throughout 2016 and he ignored all of it and he became president anyway but it’s a hard-hitting editorial I think all of your viewers should should take a look at it it’s advocating what they’re calling radical transparency taking us back to the Watergate era and the release of the tapes right put it all out there let anybody figure it out and importantly I think the editorial says every piece of what you were trying to hide is going to come to light everything is going to be found out if it’s not found out by the special council the Congress will get to it if the Congress doesn’t get to it the press will get to it you’ve got to just put it all out instead of having this death by a thousand cuts it’s you know perfectly sound advice that I strongly suspect the president what David Gregory I want to get your take on this but they did fit in a little caveat in this editorial that also you know kind of balances out the price of disclosure this radical transparency is Errol called it is the opposite of the Clinton stonewall strategy which should be instructive that strategy saved Bill Clinton’s presidency in the 90s at a fearsome price and only because the media and Democrats in Congress rallied behind him missed into the sentence mr. Trump can’t count on the same from Republicans and most of the media want him run out of office that is the caveat to complete transparency here which is that assumes that the President and anyone around him wouldn’t pay a huge price for the difference between what was said before the disclosure and after the transparency well because look this White House has a huge credibility problem because on so many matters the president and his top aides don’t tell the truth that comes with a heavy cost they are disingenuously attacking the media so that people won’t believe what is truthfully reported it’s not not to say the media doesn’t make mistakes or doesn’t show bias in some cases but there is certainly a body of evidence here that the media is reporting on unearthing core investigative reporting that the president just wants to put his hand to and say you can’t believe what’s right in front of your eyes that’s the core of the credibility problem and that is a disingenuous game that the president is playing by the way let me just say that it is not normal that the White House keeps putting out these briefings that are not televised trying to shut down the major source of how Americans get news and information via television or video or video on on their on their devices it’s wrong and it’s because they lack credibility and they’re playing this game but in this particular case he’s not going to have the backup of Republicans either who see the same problems that the Wall Street Journal is identifying here which is a fundamental lack of credibility that will overshadow everything that he’s trying to do panel thank you very much for all of your thoughts on this we’ll be covering it throughout the program all right another important story that is shrouded in mystery you heard about what happened in Minneapolis an officer there fatally shot a woman after she called 911 help so now we’re learning more about who this woman was and how her life ended all too soon next to repeal and replace Obamacare collapses that leaves a huge amount of doubt about the stability of health care for millions of Americans pricing access could be negatively affected the final straw for the bill came when two more senators announced their opposition to this effort President Trump had a late night dinner to try to work a deal but fell short we have seen the markets drop around the world in response overnight so the President and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell acknowledging defeat and they’re now pushing for a straightforward repeal without a replacement plan how did all of this fall apart we have it all covered for you let’s begin with CNN’s Suzanne Malveaux she lives on Capitol Hill give us the latest now good morning well as president from approaches in six-month mark and his presidency with record low approval rating this devastating blow now to a group number one legislative priority and also the promise that Republicans made to both repeal and replace Obamacare Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell giving up on Republicans seven-year effort now pushing to repeal Obamacare without a replacement plan in place the latest effort collapsing after two more Republican senators announced their opposition to the bill simultaneously on Monday night ensuring that the plan would fail McConnell still planning to hold a vote in the coming days on a 2015 measure that would repeal Obamacare but delay it taking effect for two years while a replacement bill is crafted president Trump responding to the setback on Twitter tweeting Republicans should just repeal failing Obamacare now and work on a new health care plan that will start from a clean slate Dems will join in this despite the fact that a straight repeal has little to no chance of passing and it could leave millions uninsured and the insurance markets in turmoil the president’s proposal starkly different from the promise he made on the campaign trail Obamacare is a disaster repeal it and replace it repeat and replace repeal and replace Obamacare we’re going to repeal it wouldn’t replace it we’re going to get something president Trump was trying to drum up support for health care hosting a handful of senators at a White House dinner Monday night as senators Lee and Moran announced their opposition the president expressing optimism earlier in the day the Republican senators are great people but they have a lot of different states some states make this some states need that but we’re getting it together and it’s it’s going to happen right Mike I think Democratic Minority Leader Chuck Schumer immediately celebrating the defeat tweeting this second failure of Trump care is proof positive that the core of this bill is unworkable as Republicans continue to be split about the path forward with conservatives pushing the clean repeal effort and moderates like Senator John McCain calling for bipartisanship McCain stressing that Republicans should receive input from members of both parties as they work to produce future legislation if a Connells last-ditch effort to repeal Obamacare without replacing it fails and lawmakers Republicans have a real decision to make whether or not to shore up Obamacare or let it wither Republicans have said time and time again they believe that Obamacare is collapsing now the real test whether or not they will help and work with Democrats to fix it Allison Chris all right so John thank you very much let’s bring in our panel we got CNN political analyst David Gregory CNN politics reporter and editor at large Chris Cilicia and CNN political commentator Errol Louis so there’s a big question how did this happen how did they lose Lee and Moran Errol who were supposed to be the safer part of this bargain which was those who wanted this health care bill in the basis of the cuts and it reminded me of the story that you’re going to love because you’re such a master of New York politics so I went back to my father’s Diaries last night because I remembered an episode like this there was a guy the two Italians my father and Ralph Marino who was the head I like it in your state legislature one time they’re having a dinner just like the one last night trying to finish a deal and I remember my father putting his hands over his ears and saying Ralph I don’t want to hear don’t say it and it was a reminder of the power of the false promise in politics what happened here Errol to our understanding is the cuts that were so important to people like Lee and Johnson important you know these fiscal Hawks the word got out that wow they may not go into effect which was a deal to make the people who are worried about Medicaid expansion okay about the cuts they may never go in effect and this may be a tale of the false promise that the word got out that these cuts that are so important to so many Republicans may never happen well you’d be very harsh about the art of politics that would be you know it’s a real promise it’s just a delayed promise and that is sort of the ambiguity and the push and pull that McConnell was trying to craft to keep some of the fiscal Hawks on board and at the same time let people know we’re not going to just toss tens of millions of people off of their insurance so that the cuts were supposed to sort of you know live in this kind of suspended animation it’s all they could get the deal done and get the the bill passed and then they would figure out how it would actually play out in the months and years ahead frankly this is not that different in some ways from what the president was talking about when he says look do a straight repeal light a fuse have a straight repeal that would take effect in a year that will give you some some breathing room you get the political win and you’ll also have those sort of the pressure to get the thing done in the future these are the things that go into the sausage-making that most of us haven’t up till now really paid a lot of attention to of course in your daddy or if this was all sort of backroom talk that maybe the son would find out about but but the reality is this is how it gets done and as long as they can’t bring everybody together as long as those promises that ambiguity that suspended animation gets out and then makes people walk away from the deal they’re never going to get to – YES on this David let’s talk about the timeline that we know of because this all did not happen in a backroom deal we do know how this sort of unraveled so this week earlier there was word that there were two senators that were going to vote no but they still could do it if they could get John McCain to recover quickly vice-president pence and then last night president Trump invited a group of I think seven senators over to dinner now these were as we understand it yes votes but maybe they were influencers and maybe they were going to help spread the word of how great this Senate deal was and then Lee and ran the two senators last night who ended up settling this tweeted that they were going to be no votes but we think that word first got to the president and the White House and it cast a pall on that dinner yeah I mean I think that one of the problems is when you have these delays you lose even more momentum I think if Mitch McConnell was going to snatch this out of the hands of skeptics and those were opposed he had to do it quickly and he never quite got to the place where he could secure the votes I think one of the big factors that’s over all of this is a president who’s not very popular at 36% approval and he doesn’t know the intricacies of what he’s trying to negotiate here so he’s he’s really outsourced to all of this to Capitol Hill he doesn’t have the juice there’s a lot of questions among Republicans of whether the White House is going to stand behind them when they face a very tough vote and then ultimately have to face the voters I think the bigger issue that goes to Chris’s point about well are their false promises here look conservatives like Mike Lee never wanted to get into this business in the first place where the federal government was going to take a huge role in trying to level the playing field in the health care system once you do that now you have constituents Americans out there who are relying on federal subsidies who are relying upon a kind of federal guarantee of some of these markets to pull that hand away is going to disappoint a lot of people particularly when you’re talking about well we’ll make some fixes down the line the immediate issue is now going to be how do you shore up some of the real deficiencies in some of these exchanges and in the rate structure given that you’ve had Republicans and a president talking about how it’s in a death spiral and it’s going to collapse now they do face the need of shoring it up if they’re not going to repeal it all right so John McCain as Alison was saying played a role here at least by proxy when his surprise surgery came up there was so much somewhat of a call to hold this in abeyance until we saw what happened with him he put out a statement let’s put it up we’ll read it two people one of the major problems with Obamacare was that it was written on a strict party line basis and driven through Congress without a single Republican vote as this law continues to crumble in Arizona and states across the country who must not repeat the original mistakes that led to Obamacare’s failure the Congress the Congress must now return to regular order hold hearings receive input from members of both parties and heed the recommendations of our nation’s governors so that we can produce a bill that finally provides Americans with access to quality and affordable health care crystal izi is this the way forward which is the return to the way the process is supposed to work no the reason for that Chris is because I think what you’ll see is this repeal then replace effort fail first of all this is what they tried or wanted many Republicans wanted to do at the start realize they didn’t have the votes and that’s why they did repeal and replace together because they could they didn’t think they had votes for repeal then replaced so I think you’ll see that push falter I struggle to see how they have the votes for that then I think what you’ll see is instead of what McCain is calling for which is a very broad reconsideration of the let’s start from scratch I think you’ll do what David is talking about there are things that need to be changed in order for the system to continue working and to better the way in which the system works in a lot of states I think and you’ve seen Mitch McConnell say if we don’t get a build on this what we’re going to do I think what you’ll see is some tweaks to the current bill I do not think you will see a whole scale re-examination on a bipartisan basis with the input of governor’s I think if you are Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan you want to be done with this as soon as humanly possible you want to move on to anything else tax reform whatever else that is you might even want to move on to funding the alleged border wall but what you do not want to do is not spend another year I mean that process McCain is proposing would take a very long time another year or so debating this with the real possibility Chris that you wind up exactly where you are yeah the the dirty little secret here guys is that there isn’t some great bill sitting out there lots of people don’t like Obamacare this bill didn’t even want to be getting a vote there’s a reason for that there’s no easy simple solution politically speaking yeah but here’s the problem with what Chris is saying are all at moving on from health care so these new national polls take the pulse of the people and what they think is most important so if you look at the bloomberg national poll health care is at the top thirty five percent of Americans believe that that is the most important issue facing the country follow then the distant second by the economy terrorism immigration climate change one more thing to show you how they think the president has done dealing with health care sixty four percent disapprove of his job on health care that’s right I I think some of that frankly is the result of all of the attention that we so we’ve been talking obviously if there’d been a terror attack the numbers would be different and I’m not just that um there was a poll um in mid-june that suggested that among Republican voters only eight percent thought that health care should be the number one priority so I you know the uncertainty itself though is the real problem you know we’ve got you know another sort of ticking time bomb is that in November it’s open enrollment time that’s not that long from now it happens to be something that a lot of people care about the insurers the companies are wondering what they’re going to do what the prospects of going forward are going to be and again for families for people who are making the decisions for their kids for their parents for their spouses for themselves for their businesses it’s it’s agonizing to wonder what am I going to have to do what’s going to happen in my premium what’s guaranteed what’s not guaranteed where am I going to buy this stuff what’s my insure we’re going to do to me come come the fall and that I think is the negative sort of blowback that’s going to force Congress to either do something really really quickly or just as Chris suggests walk away from the whole thing here’s the other issue that you have you have two schools of thought on this right you have conservatives who are worried about the conservative project in government right if they just walk away from the idea of health care and accept that there’s a huge new entitlement that is now baked in to our entitlement system that really runs afoul of conservative thinking about government but that’s what’s going on maybe in Washington and think tanks people everyday out there who are saying in that poll how important health care is they have lived through the brutal efficiencies of the insurance market about their family members not being covered for sickness about having to pay more in premiums what they want and what they’ve come to rely on is inefficient as it is is the federal government putting its big foot in the middle of that marketplace to try to make things better so even where Obamacare is not working very well where it’s creating uncertainty or where insurance companies are not making out the way they expected to in our raising premiums people are not looking for the government to just hightail it out of the market they want some support and that’s why ultimately I think Congress can have to stay in this business but now they’ve created a problem where political skill is going to be very very paramount in importance which is this reminds me so much of what happened in 2008-2009 I covered the you know that that depression very deeply and once the banks didn’t know what the remedy was going to be rates went all over the place that people paid the price and now you may see that in a way we’ve never seen it before relieved the conversation there we’ll talk about it more when we get more information but that’s the risk of the uncertainty is that everything does start tons unraveled the exact way the Republicans have been talking about that it was going to happen except they never said it would be by their hand all right gentlemen thank you very much we’ll get back to you in a second other big news this morning the unusual story of Donald Trump jr. tangled in Russian intrigue has taken another twist mixed motives for that controversial meeting courtesy of mixed messaging from the White House the president tweeting his son did what any politician would do to get dirt on an opponent but Sean Spicer statement later in the day contradicted that saying there was another motive CNN’s Joe John’s live at the White House with more Joe can you untangle it I’ll try to Chris look another bewildering moment in the White House briefing room and it just goes to show how the White House is struggling to come up with a coherent explanation for Donald Trump Jr’s meeting with that Russian lawyer the initial explanation was that the meeting was all about adoption of Russian children and something called the Magnitsky Act of 2012 which deals with sanctions on Russia it was only later that the real motivation of the meeting came out that it was to find dirt on Hillary Clinton so yesterday in the briefing room Sean Spicer appearing to revert back to the initial explanation listen there was nothing as far as we know that would lead anyone to believe that there was anything except for a discussion about adoption the Majin ski act meanwhile there is more fallout from that meeting and it does involve another member of the president’s staff as well as a member of this family that would be his son-in-law Jared Kushner Democrats on Capitol Hill are calling for his security clearance his provisional security clearance to be taken away CNN’s Erin Murray reporting last night that his final security clearance may never be granted Alison of course it’s up to the President to decide that but it’s subject to blowback when he does okay Joe thank you very much for all of that news and we will be talking about that whether or not Jared Kushner’s security clearance is now at risk our panel discusses all of that when we come back the family of a woman killed by Minneapolis police after calling 9-1-1 say they are desperate for information about the moments leading up to the shooting now police say that Justine Damon called 911 sexual assault in the alley behind her home this was late Saturday night two officers responded one of those officers shot her did they have body cameras on yes where they turned on no we’re told by police and of course that is fueling a lot of confusion and speculation now coming up on new day we’re going to hear from a longtime friend of Damon’s and the mayor of Minneapolis try get answers on that meanwhile the Trump administration acknowledges that Iran is complying with terms of the nuclear deal but they say Iran’s non nuclear activities show it is quote unquestionably in default of the spirit of that agreement both the President and Secretary of State Hillary sent are fierce critics of that deal the administration is said to be considering more sanctions targeting Iran’s ballistic missile program and state sponsorship of terrorism all right so the Lakers Long’s old ball his NBA career is off to a hell of a start coy wire has more in this morning’s bleacher report you got to give it to the kid his father the height put lot of attention on him he stepped up he sure he’s own in the moment any Chris and it will talk about the Lakers their record has been abysmal the last four years but could they make the playoffs because of this nineteen year old kid Lonzo ball this year’s number two overall pick has had a lot of hype to live up to as Chris mentioned his brazen father Lavar ball told the world that his son was going to take the Lakers to the playoffs in his very first year he goes down here in summer league MVP and led the Lakers to become summer league champs even though he didn’t play in the final you had a calf injury Lakers beat the Trailblazers in Vegas 110 to 98 so fans now the one of the most storied franchises in sports 16 championships wondering now is the hype real check this out the Astros laid a teammate’s glove to rest at a mock funeral three-time Gold Glove winner Carlos Beltran hasn’t needed a glove in more than two months being used only as a designated hitter so before the game the player said made that glove rest in peace well then the 40 year old Beltran said peace as in bye-bye to this baseball he had a two home two-run home run once the game got started Alex and the Astro still owned the best record in the American League they did lose to the Mariners 97 and this one but when you’re in first place you can have some fun he said peace out peace out thanks so much bye you’re very hip of you I know well I’m Giggy thank you very much goodbye so Senate Republicans this morning are plotting their next move in health care reform they have a plan sort of how will it affect you and your coverage we dig deeper on those answers next all right so what happens now if the Senate bill is done in terms of changing Obamacare well there’s no replacement what does it mean to your coverage let’s discuss we have two journalists who know a lot about health care chief Washington correspondent of kaiser Health News Julie Rovner and CNN politics national reporter MJ Lee so Julie that the big question right if there isn’t going to be anything different but there is all this uncertainty is it true that the uncertainty all by itself could cause problems the uncertainty all by itself is already causing problems what we’ve seen is as insurers come forward to file their rates for next year for 2018 they’ve already said they don’t know if they’re going to get this money that they’re owed that helps low-income people pay for their out-of-pocket spending they don’t know whether the Trump administration is going to enforce the individual mandate that requires most people to have insurance those two things together cause between a twenty and thirty percent rate increase alone that’s just the uncertainty part so MJ what is the next move here because we’ve heard – I think kind of diametrically opposed things one is okay let’s just repeal it we don’t need to have a plan right now we’ve promised we repeal Obamacare let’s just repeal it we’ll cobble together a plan later the other is no back to the drawing board let’s get Democrats in a room let’s do this the right way it’s going to take a long time it’ll be laborious but let’s just shelve it until we go back to the drawing board which one is taking root well what Mitch McConnell is now proposing is essentially a bill from 2015 that of course was vetoed by President Obama that would have repealed large portions of Obamacare but that would have gone into effect two years later so this is essentially the repeal and delay tactic that Senate Republicans had ruled out earlier this year they knew that there was no appetite for this even within their own conference and this is why they ended up pursuing the repeal and replace at the same time strategy and that of course is now collapse and I think it’s really important to keep in mind as week about this process just so we’re clear on what it is we’re talking about what the Senate will still do is vote on a motion to proceed on the house-passed bill so the motion to proceed vote still needs to happen which means that Senate Republicans need to agree to even take up this bill and at this point that’s not even clear that that’s going to happen we have been talking all week about Rand Paul and Susan Collins that they were – no votes that they didn’t even want to bring up this bill for a vote and now you know just keep in mind that this has now been further complicated by the fact that books like John McCain and Jerry Moran have come out and openly said this needs to be an open process so for some of these senators who have now said essentially you know we need hearings we need to have committees look into this we need regular order you want some Democrats on your video said potentially yeah and you know Julie was talking about how unstable things are already Republicans know this they are not unaware that there’s a lot of trouble right now with Obama care there’s certain things that need immediate attention and Republicans are now openly saying this is something that we need to work on potentially with Democrats it’s interesting Julie this is obviously so much for the Republicans about getting the tax savings that is the genius behind the president’s offer of repeal now give yourself a date certain to come up with the replacement plan that will create political pressure but you’ll get those tax savings right now from repeal that’s what repeal would mean right is that you would be able to repeal a lot of the tax structures that go into the subsidies and the backup for the mandate and that money could be used elsewhere that’s absolutely right what the 2015 bill did was it repealed all the taxes as he said it repealed all of the subsidies it repealed the Medicaid expansion it repealed all the benefits basically financial benefits from the Affordable Care Act along with the taxes it paid for them and they had trouble getting that bill through in 2015 even though everybody knew it was basically just a dress rehearsal so the idea that they could bring that bill back left a lot of people scratching their heads now there is one bill that Congress must do in the next couple of months and that’s to reauthorize the children’s health insurance program that expires on September 30th there is bipartisan support for that program so a lot of people are thinking that maybe when Congress does that which they must do that they might add in some of these fixes for the Affordable Care Act but they’ll need Democrats for that because they’re not going to get the Conservatives and if they really care and they really want cooperation and they really want to fix just as a first step prescription prescription drug cost you know you have Democrats want on that you know you have Republicans and it’s like so many people needed across this country why don’t they act on that MJ Julie thank you very much for sharing all of your reporting with us now for some perspective on how this will affect the states and you joining us is Democratic Governor Terry McAuliffe of Virginia he’s the chairman of the National Governors Association good morning governor well it’s great to be back with you okay you look happy you woke up today feeling how well very happy in fact yeah I knew for the last couple days after all the governors met this weekend and Rhode Island that this was a non-starter this wasn’t going to go forward this would be devastating to the families in our state’s devastating to the budgets that we have to administer so this is a great opportunity now they need to come together in a bipartisan way exactly what Senator McCain said I have been arguing for a long time let’s all get in a room bring the governor’s and we administrate these programs we run the Medicaid programs in our states let’s get together in a bipartisan way this is a major policy initiative keep the politics out of it and let’s provide health care for all of our citizens so that we can have a healthy workforce today is a great day the politics is done they cannot get this through let’s go back and do what we should have done day one is fix the things and generic drugs as you mentioned there are things we can do when one gets released from a hospital to bundle services cost savings there are a lot of things we can do to save money and make sure everybody gets quality health care well let’s pick up on that governor because the flipside right which is that today is a terrible day because we have more uncertainty injected into the markets and the healthcare providers may spike their rates and we don’t know what’s going to happen and the looming issue the real concern is what you just said quickly their costs all the governor’s want more money they say they need more help to expand Medicaid for the people who need it but you have this huge constituency within the GOP reasonably saying because too much already so how do you deal with costs and need we could literally save billions of dollars in this program the one thing is give the states give us flexibility this is something we’ve argued let us bring our best practices together but there’s billions that we could save in different programs as I mentioned on generic drugs we could do in the Medicare program as well as a post hospital stay to bundle those services of the Medicare but remember on the Medicaid who are we taking care of and we’re dealing with the elderly the disabled pregnant women and children core constituents of people who need quality health care the problem you have today is you’re exactly right it’s the uncertainty in the market today they don’t know what’s going to happen on the health plans and cost-sharing they don’t know about the subsidies for the individuals and most importantly the reinsurance program which are those plans that take care of the sickest populations of America we need of these three areas you know that the federal government is going to be the partner on these to fund these and if you bring the governor’s in who run these programs we can bring these cost savings to you but what’s happened today this is all been about politics we’re done with it the Senate needs to show leadership let us come together let us fix health care let us get infrastructure done let us do tax reform but right now Washington is ground to a halt they’re letting politics dictate policy let’s get back what people like it us to do work together and get things done the governors do this on a daily basis the Senate and the house need to do the same thing in Washington governor what you’re saying is Congress move aside you can’t be trusted to do this let us 15 governors come together in a room and we’ll get this done and look that sounds wonderful anybody it’s music to the ears of anybody who wants a bipartisan solution and effort but let’s face it what the governor of Nevada wants is different than what the governor of Virginia yourself would want so is it possible you’re making it sound a little easier than it would be well first of all Congress obviously has to do this but the governor of Nevada Brian sand of all my good friend we spent the whole weekend talk about healthcare listen we know we can bring efficiencies to this but to go in and gut the program and knock all these people millions of people out of health care it will raise the premiums and there’s things obviously we need to do in 2014 when you know they first started doing this they didn’t have the claims data everybody rushed in and they figured wrong on a lot of the premium data show the namings upfront you think that would help this process because they use it it’s such a big stick governor that it’s so expensive that the rates of costs have gone up faster than any of the needs and any of the other indexes do you think that there should be some show of potential savings to offset the narrative of cost you bet there’s got to be cost savings to it listen everybody understands that we need there are things in this bill that we need to fix to make it more cost effective and efficient we can do that we do we run these programs in our state’s when washing does lands on our desk we administrate these programs we have all brought efficiencies in our respective states I wouldn’t say get all 50 governors back but let us be part of the process the input so that we can bring what our best practices are we run these programs but we have to save money we have to do it an efficient way but at the same time everybody health care is a right everybody is entitled to health care we ought to be able to deliver this in a way that everybody gets covered but to deal and throw our most vulnerable citizens out without health care and the real winners today are the grassroots activists who have been out there at the town halls and meeting after meeting letting their legislators and elected officials know that we will not stand by and allow you to take our health care way there the true winners here today but there let’s not spike the ball nobody should be spiking the ball in the end zone today this is about what do we do in the next step and to say we’re going to go now for repeal will only bring more uncertainty uncertainty is crushing this market because the insurance companies don’t know what to do continue the cost sharing for the plans make sure the subsidies are in place for the individuals and please continue the reinsurance program for our sickest population and do not come off the individual mandate we need everybody in this program for it to be successful as other nations around the gold have done Governor Terry McAuliffe thank you very much for sharing your perspective on all this with us you know he echoes what we’ve heard for president Trump at time which is everybody has to be covered he has said that true but you have this pushback of you can’t force people to buy it I know the Supreme Court decided this decision but politically for sure I’ll say if you must be able to have it that’s the only reason they have it that’s the mandate it’s also important to spreading cost so there’s a lot of work to be done on this our Republicans have had seven years to come up with a replacement plan so can the GOP come up with a plan now the

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